Jelsoft has repeatedly denied requests from multiple people (including myself) at different stages of development that they split up "Super Moderator" permissions (too much access controled by this one setting). This problem alone is a thorne in my side. And it has crossed my mind more than once to change softwares. Why haven't I? Because I don't have the time to shop for an alternative, and I don't have the time to migrate to another solution.
I guess, from my point of view, Jelsoft's got me in the same position that Microsft has. I'm stuck with their product untill I have time to learn enough to feel comfortable switching to an alternative.
Mark Hensler
If there is no answer on Google, then there is no question.
i did a google search on 'vbulletin sucks' and came up with some kinky reads.
i think your stuck with this forum; it looks good and has vbulletin branded on it so people will take a look around; i guess they feel comfortable with vbulletin or something. also it works for a site like this one; because they developed it for these types. erm.. i'm ranting now, what wassss i talking about!11
I love vB. Though now you mention it, Super Mods should have set up permissions. Even admins do! But thats just one small thing to me. If I want to set specific permissions, then I just add the user as a forum moderator for each forum, solves the problem (though not as quick).
IPB v2 is looking pretty good though. I did a test drive on localhost with their latest 'Public Development Release'. Not bad, but I don't think it lives up to vB.
I remember it being hell to skin as well. I haven't tried to skin v2 yet so I can't say if its changed or not. All of Matt's fancy DHTML tricks might win IPB a few points though.
I'm not seeing anywhere in the user brief on the left or top of posts that links to user's homepage, contact and such. There was a little row of icons previously, iirc.
Mark Hensler posted this at 21:38 — 4th April 2004.
Abhishek Reddy wrote: I'm not seeing anywhere in the user brief on the left or top of posts that links to user's homepage, contact and such. There was a little row of icons previously, iirc.
Indeed there was... I'll fix that in just a sec.
I think vB still has edge when it comes to inventing/implementing new ideas. But I also think they're behind on the administrative/maintenance side. For example, you still cannot assign a usergroup to moderate a forum, only individuals (something I've seen in other softwares for quite a while). On the flip side, I don't know of any other software that has the Similar Threads feature.
So, do I want to make it easier for myself to administrate/maintain the software or easier for users to find/share information?
Mark Hensler
If there is no answer on Google, then there is no question.
Apparently they have removed the postbit_buttons template. Not hard to fix at all. But I couldn't find it anywhere in the install docs, or even by searching the forums. Thanks for the heads up, Jelsoft.
I've also re-added our Agreement Hack (used only in Website Critique Area).
Mark Hensler
If there is no answer on Google, then there is no question.
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Chroder posted this at 05:32 — 3rd April 2004.
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Yay
I have a vB fetish 
Mark Hensler posted this at 07:19 — 3rd April 2004.
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I have a vB headache.
Jelsoft has repeatedly denied requests from multiple people (including myself) at different stages of development that they split up "Super Moderator" permissions (too much access controled by this one setting). This problem alone is a thorne in my side. And it has crossed my mind more than once to change softwares. Why haven't I? Because I don't have the time to shop for an alternative, and I don't have the time to migrate to another solution.
I guess, from my point of view, Jelsoft's got me in the same position that Microsft has. I'm stuck with their product untill I have time to learn enough to feel comfortable switching to an alternative.
Mark Hensler
If there is no answer on Google, then there is no question.
s0da posted this at 09:28 — 3rd April 2004.
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i feel your pain.
i did a google search on 'vbulletin sucks' and came up with some kinky reads.
i think your stuck with this forum; it looks good and has vbulletin branded on it so people will take a look around; i guess they feel comfortable with vbulletin or something. also it works for a site like this one; because they developed it for these types. erm.. i'm ranting now, what wassss i talking about!11
Chroder posted this at 17:22 — 3rd April 2004.
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I love vB. Though now you mention it, Super Mods should have set up permissions. Even admins do! But thats just one small thing to me. If I want to set specific permissions, then I just add the user as a forum moderator for each forum, solves the problem (though not as quick).
IPB v2 is looking pretty good though. I did a test drive on localhost with their latest 'Public Development Release'. Not bad, but I don't think it lives up to vB.
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s0da posted this at 18:10 — 3rd April 2004.
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templating invision is pretty hard. all that damn css gets in the way. i personally would choose vbulletin over invision.
Chroder posted this at 19:36 — 3rd April 2004.
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I remember it being hell to skin as well. I haven't tried to skin v2 yet so I can't say if its changed or not. All of Matt's fancy DHTML tricks might win IPB a few points though.
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s0da posted this at 01:35 — 4th April 2004.
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hmm.. from the screenshots of the new ipb. it looks like he's getting a couple ideas from vbulletin. haha.
the fancy dhtml is pretty nice though.
Abhishek Reddy posted this at 02:57 — 4th April 2004.
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I'm not seeing anywhere in the user brief on the left or top of posts that links to user's homepage, contact and such. There was a little row of icons previously, iirc.
Mark Hensler posted this at 21:38 — 4th April 2004.
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Indeed there was... I'll fix that in just a sec.
I think vB still has edge when it comes to inventing/implementing new ideas. But I also think they're behind on the administrative/maintenance side. For example, you still cannot assign a usergroup to moderate a forum, only individuals (something I've seen in other softwares for quite a while). On the flip side, I don't know of any other software that has the Similar Threads feature.
So, do I want to make it easier for myself to administrate/maintain the software or easier for users to find/share information?
Mark Hensler
If there is no answer on Google, then there is no question.
s0da posted this at 04:02 — 4th April 2004.
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heeeeyy.. what happened to those lil buttons.
Mark Hensler posted this at 22:15 — 4th April 2004.
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*moan*
Apparently they have removed the postbit_buttons template. Not hard to fix at all. But I couldn't find it anywhere in the install docs, or even by searching the forums. Thanks for the heads up, Jelsoft.
I've also re-added our Agreement Hack (used only in Website Critique Area).
Mark Hensler
If there is no answer on Google, then there is no question.
s0da posted this at 23:21 — 4th April 2004.
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thats a very nice hack indeed. good job.
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