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I've just re-done my secondary site (kinda use it as a test area), and have only two links on the index page. I know now that I should have read these forums first, since it appears the number of links effect ranking. Anyway, both those links go to pages that have a java drop-down menu which has about 20-25 links. Do the search engines "see" those links and consider them if they're in the java file?? Also, does a link have to be a full link (i.e. http://www.uswindshieldrepair.com/About.html) or can it be an abbrev. (i.e. About.html)? Any help would of course be greatly appreciated.www.uswindshieldrepair.com

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The best way to think about things as far as what SEs see & crawl is to look at the source code, can you see the links? If not then no they can't see them and wont crawl through javascript links. If you have to use javascript then put the links at the bottom of the page as normal text and if you can't fit them all in (probably the reason you chose javascript in the first place) link to the most important ones and use a site map as well linked to from the main index page.

As for url, if the link is in the same domain then you can just use the page name.

Julia - if life was meant to be easy Michael Angelo would have painted the floor....

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Webmistress, thank you!

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You could also put your page text content and links in a noscript tag at the bottom of the page most SE use bots that don't see script so they will get the noscript section

IF , ELSE , WHILE isn't that what life is all about

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druagord, can you elaborate on what a "noscript" section is? I was thinking of going down to the very bottom of the page and putting links to each page of the site, would this work?? Also, do I need to place the full link (i.e. "http://www.windshieldrepair.com/page.htm" or will "page.htm" work)?

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You can include code so if JavaScript is disabled, user agents can still follow/access links.

<noscript>
put the links here
</noscript>

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Alternatively, use smart JavaScript so that if JavaScript is disabled it only minorly changes the function.

For instance, for popup windows, include the url in the href instead of # or void(); or removing the href entirely.

For drop-down lists, try using CSS instead of JavaScript to control the function, and server-side language to perform the tricks.

As for urls, you can use any url (absolute (domain, root), relative) as long as the user agent can follow it. Obviously for external urls, you'd have to use an absolute domain url. Smiling

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I've re-designed my other site (uswindshieldrepair.com)and a have a hovering/drop-down menu using java after the index page thinking that would work. My question is does "link popularity" pertain to the index page only?? If not, how important is it on subsequent pages of the site?

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If you are talking about PR then it's all pages although in most cases the index page may have a higher PR as that's where external links will point to. You need to make all pages crawlable by the SEs as you hope to get the whole site indexed, so all main links should link from the index page, or it would be advisable to have a link to a complete site map from the index page.

Julia - if life was meant to be easy Michael Angelo would have painted the floor....