So,
I am faced with an unique problem. I want to submit a site to dmoz, but it seems the editors are our competitors (pretty competitive industry). The site was rejected few times for no particular reason. I am looking for a workaround... any suggestions? Thanks. Sam.
Megan posted this at 13:10—29th August 2007.
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Try a different category. I've heard that local regions get better responses than general categories.
Megan
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cliffhanger posted this at 12:30—31st August 2007.
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Megan,
One question, how much does it matter if i am not listed in the directory I ideally should have been? Also, I tried to become an editor and was rejected. What do they look for in editors?
Sam
Megan posted this at 12:55—31st August 2007.
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I don't think Dmoz is a big deal anymore, to be honest. I wouldn't stress out too much about it - there are much better ways to get linkbacks.
I really don't know about what you have to do to become an editor...
Megan
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cliffhanger posted this at 19:33—31st August 2007.
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Hey,
A lot of people have been actually telling me that DMOZ is not that important. I have been trying to get linkbacks, and am quite at my wit's end. I will lay it out for you. The few areas i have identified are:
1. content sharing/bookmarking-- (the share icon project is what i have in mind). And of course rss, & opml functionalities.
2. Paid Partners
3. Alexa Submissions
4. API (on netvibes for the most part)
This is apart from the directory submissions. Are there any broad area categories you can think of to add to this? Any ideas/feedback will be great help. Thanks. Sam.
cooluks posted this at 20:08—19th September 2007.
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Agree, DMOZ is not active anymore in terms of approving sites.. Some editors there are corrupt...
Steven_D posted this at 04:40—3rd September 2007.
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DMOZ is important, anyone telling you otherwise is just upset they cant get listed lol.
Categories are maintained by different editors, so if you fail in one category then just try another and you will get a different editor reviewing your site.
When you say the editor is your competiton, you mean the editors in general, eg your making a site in competition to DMOZ, or the one specific person you need to approve your link.
The two best work arounds I can think of would be, register as an editor for the category you want to be in, and or, suggest a new category and apply to be the editor of that category as they have heaps of people wanting to be editors for their current categories.
Or you could search round the webmasters forum for DMOZ editors, i remember seeing a few posts from a DMOZ editor in a forum i was reading, he was giving some advice to someone in your similar situation.
Other thing to think of is, if you are making a listing site, is it really any different than the 1,000,000 other listing sites around, they must get more enquiries for SEO listings or web directory listings than any other type of site, so they are prob declining all but the crem del al crem
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Steven_D posted this at 04:53—3rd September 2007.
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This is straight from the google site
"It is not only the number of links you have pointing to your site that matters, but also the quality and relevance of those links. Creating good content pays off: Links are usually editorial votes given by choice, and the buzzing blogger community can be an excellent place to generate interest. In addition, submit your site to relevant directories such as the Open Directory Project and Yahoo!, as well as to other industry-specific expert sites."
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=66356&query=link+exchange&topic=&type
in my experience, when google says jump, u need to say how high.
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Megan posted this at 13:55—4th September 2007.
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Yes, but they're also saying to submit to Yahoo which costs $300 and I'm sure they don't expect everyone to do that. The reason I say dmoz is not that important is a) because I've never seen any referral traffic to this site from there and b) I've heard some things (and not heard some things) from the SEO experts I read. I haven't heard much from the SEO community about dmoz being of absolute importance - good, yes, but they don't seem to stress about it. I've also heard increasing complaints about taking too long to get in, editors being corrupt etc. etc - getting listed is very difficult now so it might be better to spend your time on something else.
Here's a good discussion from Google Webmaster Help:
http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-Indexing/browse_thread/thread/80f335afbc7df989/29d72e773d1a0b50
As most say there - it doesn't hurt to submit your site (and try a different category if you didn't get your first choice). If you don't get in or it takes forever it's not the end of the world.
cliffhanger - if you tell us what your site is about we might be able to think of some other ways to get backlinks. It helps a lot if you have some good content on your site that is worth linking to becuase it's interesting, educational, funny, informative etc. Instead of going for dmoz you could try finding some good industry-specific directores to list in instead.
Megan
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akopayan posted this at 09:41—3rd September 2007.
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I have heard about DMOZ, that one ediror asked for $5000 for registration there. But I'm not sure if it is true. I just have heard.
Megan posted this at 14:44—4th September 2007.
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Here are a couple more good references from my favourite site:
Getting a Link from DMOZ Isn't Worth What It Once Was (from December, 2006)
DMOZ, an Issue Barely Worth Discussion (February, 2005)
Megan
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Megan posted this at 15:02—7th September 2007.
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Another expert on Dmoz:
via SEObook
There are some other good tips on directories in the second-last question in that interview. Mostly in line with what SEOmoz has been saying.
Megan
My web design blog
robfenn posted this at 12:34—13th September 2007.
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Just found today that people at DMOZ actually do something! We moved about 6 months ago and they have actually moved our site into a new place. Ironically i never submitted our site to DMOZ but it's been there for a few years now.
Come to think of it, the only sites that are in DMOZ are ones that have been put in without my prior knowledge.
Interestingly one link from DMOZ is a PR4 and yet Google doesn't even show it on link:domain.
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Solommon posted this at 07:17—15th September 2007.
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Hello there. Seems that people spend a lot of time to get listed in DMOZ. Is it worth it?