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adalt's picture

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Hi,
I am having problems understanding "top 10-20 positions" in search engines, surely, once a site is submitted to a search engine the position of it depends on the words that are searched for, also what is the best way to find out what position a site is in a particular search engine ??

Thanks

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Jaiem's picture

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Bingo!

You hit the point I've been trying to make for a long time. Top 10-20-whatever positioning is based on the search phrase used. One word more or less can change the results completely. That's why when someone says they have the #1 spot the next question must be "With what search words?"

Reaching the top 10-20 positions in a general category is much harder. But I don't think too many people start at the top of a general category and drill down. Most do key word or phrase searches.

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1st's picture

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From what I understand and the change in search engine indexing title is everythiny. Keywords found in the url are a big booster. Three keywords or phases used in title are a plus like say Free fishing tips! Fishing tips free! Tips free fishing! Then dont use fishing any more Discription yadaa yadaa context"=best ideas on how to fish and catch more fish at 0 cost! Fish caught easy! Experts catch advise of the day!
then keywords"catch more, find best spots, secrets revieled, ect ect what you would use as key words the find what you are posting!!!
good luck and remeber title and url are allmost everthing. so creat a url file that uses a keyword to discribe your site!!!!

Jaiem's picture

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All depends on the specific individual engine. Some care more about tags, others titles, others content, others whoe knows. And the engineers are always tinkering with the algorithms anyway.

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Christian_SEO's picture

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I have one thing to add:

I have seen with my own eyes that while searching for the domain name ( but not using the .com) that a totally un-related site ( porno, at that) came up in the results.

I thought maybe they had use the domain on the page somewhere, which didn't make sense, because the site is not that big or popular yet. But I couldn't find it anywhere in the page!!!!

They had used the domain name for the name of the PAGE!

So I strongly recommend naming your site files with one-two-or-three keywords. It can't hurt and I think it will help more than most of use realize.

Any comments?

Thanks,
Christian

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What do you mean by "name of the page" Christian? Do you mean the title of the file name? or maybe something else? I never knew that the files name can make a difference.

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Christian_SEO's picture

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The name, like "index.htm", of the file.

Christian

Jaiem's picture

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Haven't heard of an engine using that but I suppose it's possible.