How are you doing in the search engines? If someone is interested in putting an affiliated link to something like this they may do a search for either affiliate schemes or just the type of site they want to affiliate to.
Nice site BTW & welcome to TWF.
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That's the point really -- you build credibility within the community by participating. The more you participate, the more people will decide if what you sell is worth their time.
Sitepoint is a good place for webmasters. I have advertised one of my sites there but didn't get the results I hoped for. At the same time, I spent more moeny and advertised the same site on a different webmaster site which gets more traffic than sitepoint and got the worst results.
So,you need to do you research. Don't expect to get good ROI just by advertising your site on any webmaster site.
You need to check your stats and try to understand your visitor's behavior and what they do when they arrive at your website.
Also try to understand what kind of visitors and traffic do they get?
Make your self a list of questions and ask them before you spend that much money.
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I would imagine that webmasters are a hard bunch to advertise to. What are your banners like? Are they positioned well? Do they sell your website well?
Julia - if life was meant to be easy Michael Angelo would have painted the floor....
One of the advantages banners advertising have over many other form of advertisments is brand awarness.
I have looked at banners many times and never visited the website. But I had an image in my head of that banner and visited the website in a later time.
So, there is more advantages to banners than just clicks. That is also why there is CPC and CPM.
ISEDB.com - Guide to Search Engines and Directories. ISEDB.com News- Search Engine News and Articles.
Yeesh, my mind has gone blank, I can't remember where I read this... the link might have been posted somewhere on TWF... or not...
Apparently, studies have shown that frequent surfers have developed an "immunity" to banners and adverts. If the page was divided into a grid, there are sectors in the grid - like the top header region, the bottom footer region, the right vertical column, and others where ads are commonly placed - that the surfers' eye naturally tends to ignore.
Since you're targeting webmasters, one can assume that they fall under the category of "frequent surfers", and banners may not be as effective as you'd like to a large portion of your target audience.
This is something I think is worth considering, especially when you're paying for space.
Quote: Originally posted by Abhishek Reddy Apparently, studies have shown that frequent surfers have developed an "immunity" to banners and adverts. If the page was divided into a grid, there are sectors in the grid - like the top header region, the bottom footer region, the right vertical column, and others where ads are commonly placed - that the surfers' eye naturally tends to ignore.
yeah, it was posted on TWF, it's a psychology site on websties or soemthing, the url escapes me,
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I got quite a lot of hits from their ContentDirect. It is a very good way to promote (I think) because it's like putting ads on newsletter but it is CPC. It is a bit expensive tho.
I would suggest you to put more 'direct' ads on those pages if you're planning to put up an ad. there.
I think there is something very important about all of this that I have not seen said by anyone. Having a steady stream of traffic is all fine and dandy but the most important queation is are you selling something? If so then the all the traffic in the world will not matter if you don't give your visitors a reason to buy from you. Which do you think is better a site that has 100 visitors a month and makes 65 sales or a site that has 1000 visitors a month and makes 60 sales? In my opinion the site with only 100 visitors is better and I don't say that because that site had 5 more sales rather I say that because that site sold 65% of it's visitors. Thats awesome. That tells me that site knows exactly who it's target audience is and where to find them. Now you may say that the other site has 900 more chances to make sales. You would be right but the question is if that site is targeting the right audience and if it is then the site needs to be redone because it's target costomer won't even buy from them like they should. Most webmasters probably won't agree with me and that is their opinion but the last I saw there were something like 95% of the sites on the internet are losing money. I would bet my left foot that the majority of those webmasters don't know where the heck to find their target audience.
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I say that text links have more of an effect on me than banners. If I see an iteresting site name in letters I am more tempted to click-through than if I see a banner advert.
Quote: I say that text links have more of an effect on me than banners. If I see an iteresting site name in letters I am more tempted to click-through than if I see a banner advert.
Me too. I tend to trust text links that at least look genuine (not ">>> CLICK HERE FOR THE MEANING OF LIFE!!!! <<" typer links ).
I went to your site, and it was slow to download. Other webmasters will notice this. It's nice graphically, however.
Have you tried any of the Pay-Per-Clicks? They're geting expensive, but they might "jump start" your site. For example, you could open an Overture account for a few months while you look around for less expensive methods.
I checked out your site FunkyJ and I am actually interested in your service but the requirments say nothing about the product being able to run on *nix servers? Do you provide this? If not do you know of anyone that does at the prices you offer?
Ronhollin, FunkyJ -- just a quick note to request that you respect the guidelines in these forums and keep business discussions to the MarketPlace or private. Thank you.
Quote: Originally posted by FunkyJ I will work on my post and try to answer as many question as I can. And hopefully I can reach that 25 post someday soon.
Don't you ever say it aloud again, man
Webmasters are a suspicious enough lot when it comes to advertising to them. If you're helpful, well heard of etc. they might start feeling less suspicious toward YOUR ads, but that is unlikely to happen if you start to cry-out loud "I gona be nice and friendly all day to that in the eve I can become ad-y!"
Suzanne posted this at 23:16 — 22nd November 2002.
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Participate on bulletin boards and on mailing lists and include your site in your signature.
Pay for ads on websites that webmasters visit, such as commonly used software, webreference, et cetera.
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The Webmistress posted this at 09:37 — 23rd November 2002.
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How are you doing in the search engines? If someone is interested in putting an affiliated link to something like this they may do a search for either affiliate schemes or just the type of site they want to affiliate to.
Nice site BTW & welcome to TWF.
Julia - if life was meant to be easy Michael Angelo would have painted the floor....
FunkyJ posted this at 22:19 — 25th November 2002.
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I would love to put my ad. on this site but it require 25 post. I guess I have to build up my post before I can post my site on here.
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Suzanne posted this at 01:06 — 26th November 2002.
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That's the point really -- you build credibility within the community by participating. The more you participate, the more people will decide if what you sell is worth their time.
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FunkyJ posted this at 18:32 — 26th November 2002.
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This is a great way to draw people to post.
I will work on my post and try to answer as many question as I can. And hopefully I can reach that 25 post someday soon.
Anyways, anyone have good sites to do paid-ad for webmasters ?
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mjames posted this at 17:11 — 28th November 2002.
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This is a good one: http://www.sitepoint.com/mediakit
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FunkyJ posted this at 19:01 — 28th November 2002.
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Yes,
going to go for that one. ANy others ?
FunkyJ posted this at 18:33 — 5th December 2002.
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Just want to let you all know,
I spend $250 for a week of ad on sitepoint.
I got about 100 impression show per hour, but only like 3 clicks per day so far...
=(
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ISEDB.com posted this at 21:37 — 9th December 2002.
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Sitepoint is a good place for webmasters. I have advertised one of my sites there but didn't get the results I hoped for. At the same time, I spent more moeny and advertised the same site on a different webmaster site which gets more traffic than sitepoint and got the worst results.
So,you need to do you research. Don't expect to get good ROI just by advertising your site on any webmaster site.
You need to check your stats and try to understand your visitor's behavior and what they do when they arrive at your website.
Also try to understand what kind of visitors and traffic do they get?
Make your self a list of questions and ask them before you spend that much money.
ISEDB.com - Guide to Search Engines and Directories.
ISEDB.com News- Search Engine News and Articles.
The Webmistress posted this at 11:47 — 10th December 2002.
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I would imagine that webmasters are a hard bunch to advertise to. What are your banners like? Are they positioned well? Do they sell your website well?
Julia - if life was meant to be easy Michael Angelo would have painted the floor....
FunkyJ posted this at 15:43 — 10th December 2002.
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I am getting about 50 clicks now. So, $250 for 50 clicks , that is around $5 per click.
My banner position randomly on sitepoint's site on the very top. I believe I am expecting too much for just $250 that I paid for.
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ISEDB.com posted this at 15:59 — 10th December 2002.
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One of the advantages banners advertising have over many other form of advertisments is brand awarness.
I have looked at banners many times and never visited the website. But I had an image in my head of that banner and visited the website in a later time.
So, there is more advantages to banners than just clicks. That is also why there is CPC and CPM.
ISEDB.com - Guide to Search Engines and Directories.
ISEDB.com News- Search Engine News and Articles.
Abhishek Reddy posted this at 16:13 — 10th December 2002.
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Yeesh, my mind has gone blank, I can't remember where I read this... the link might have been posted somewhere on TWF... or not...
Apparently, studies have shown that frequent surfers have developed an "immunity" to banners and adverts. If the page was divided into a grid, there are sectors in the grid - like the top header region, the bottom footer region, the right vertical column, and others where ads are commonly placed - that the surfers' eye naturally tends to ignore.
Since you're targeting webmasters, one can assume that they fall under the category of "frequent surfers", and banners may not be as effective as you'd like to a large portion of your target audience.
This is something I think is worth considering, especially when you're paying for space.
Good luck.
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Renegade posted this at 23:43 — 10th December 2002.
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yeah, it was posted on TWF, it's a psychology site on websties or soemthing, the url escapes me,
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Busy posted this at 02:54 — 11th December 2002.
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this post http://psychology.wichita.edu/optimalweb/images.htm ?
from this thread http://www.webmaster-forums.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19823&perpage=15&pagenumber=2 ?
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Abhishek Reddy posted this at 07:02 — 11th December 2002.
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That's the one!
Sorry I couldn't remember. Thanks Busy.
FunkyJ posted this at 17:28 — 22nd December 2002.
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I am actually using sprinks.com now.
I got quite a lot of hits from their ContentDirect. It is a very good way to promote (I think) because it's like putting ads on newsletter but it is CPC. It is a bit expensive tho.
I would suggest you to put more 'direct' ads on those pages if you're planning to put up an ad. there.
http://www.clickchatsold.com - Add Live Chat and Live Support to your site.
zembia posted this at 05:08 — 8th January 2003.
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HELLO
Suzanne posted this at 15:12 — 8th January 2003.
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? hello? did you have something to contribute to this thread?
Renegade posted this at 21:21 — 8th January 2003.
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I think that should be deleted as SPAM, please don't SPAM do increase your post count
pfeiffdog posted this at 21:10 — 10th January 2003.
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I think there is something very important about all of this that I have not seen said by anyone. Having a steady stream of traffic is all fine and dandy but the most important queation is are you selling something? If so then the all the traffic in the world will not matter if you don't give your visitors a reason to buy from you. Which do you think is better a site that has 100 visitors a month and makes 65 sales or a site that has 1000 visitors a month and makes 60 sales? In my opinion the site with only 100 visitors is better and I don't say that because that site had 5 more sales rather I say that because that site sold 65% of it's visitors. Thats awesome. That tells me that site knows exactly who it's target audience is and where to find them. Now you may say that the other site has 900 more chances to make sales. You would be right but the question is if that site is targeting the right audience and if it is then the site needs to be redone because it's target costomer won't even buy from them like they should. Most webmasters probably won't agree with me and that is their opinion but the last I saw there were something like 95% of the sites on the internet are losing money. I would bet my left foot that the majority of those webmasters don't know where the heck to find their target audience.
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GlowHost.com posted this at 02:48 — 24th February 2003.
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I say that text links have more of an effect on me than banners. If I see an iteresting site name in letters I am more tempted to click-through than if I see a banner advert.
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Abhishek Reddy posted this at 03:08 — 24th February 2003.
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Me too. I tend to trust text links that at least look genuine (not ">>> CLICK HERE FOR THE MEANING OF LIFE!!!! <<" typer links
).
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rtroxel posted this at 16:17 — 18th March 2003.
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Just a few thoughts.
I went to your site, and it was slow to download. Other webmasters will notice this. It's nice graphically, however.
Have you tried any of the Pay-Per-Clicks? They're geting expensive, but they might "jump start" your site. For example, you could open an Overture account for a few months while you look around for less expensive methods.
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ronhollin posted this at 07:12 — 1st May 2003.
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I checked out your site FunkyJ and I am actually interested in your service but the requirments say nothing about the product being able to run on *nix servers? Do you provide this? If not do you know of anyone that does at the prices you offer?
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Suzanne posted this at 13:51 — 1st May 2003.
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Ronhollin, FunkyJ -- just a quick note to request that you respect the guidelines in these forums and keep business discussions to the MarketPlace or private. Thank you.
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Stan posted this at 10:37 — 14th May 2003.
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Don't you ever say it aloud again, man

Webmasters are a suspicious enough lot when it comes to advertising to them. If you're helpful, well heard of etc. they might start feeling less suspicious toward YOUR ads, but that is unlikely to happen if you start to cry-out loud "I gona be nice and friendly all day to that in the eve I can become ad-y!"