Free directories, are they worth the effort
Hi,
I'm kind of new to all this SEO stuff. I been submitting my site to free directories and some did give me result in terms of search engine crawling my site but I don't really get any hits from the directories.
My question is, is submitting your site to free directories worth the effort?
Megan posted this at 16:24 — 9th July 2007.
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Consider this quote:
From Aaron Wall, a well known SEO expert: http://www.seobook.com/archives/002322.shtml
I've done a little bit of directory submission and haven't noticed any benefit from it. But then, I'm one who believes in quality over quantity
I think the answer to this question depends on what you're trying to achive - if you're just looking to get crawled or to rank for obscure, uncommon keywords then directories might suit your purpose just fine. Otherwise you'll need to find some better ways to build links.
I think that search has really outperformed directories for human traffic over the past 5 years or so. I remember using directories a lot myself back in the 90's, but that was when they were actually good. Now they're either not maintained very well (dmoz), restricted to people who can pay (Yahoo), or just full of crap (most of the rest). If there are good, comprehensive, quality directories in your niche that people actually use it might be worth getting listed but otherwise I wouldn't bother. There are much more effective things you could be spending your time on.
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Megan posted this at 18:19 — 9th July 2007.
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Here's another article from Aaron Wall:
http://www.seobook.com/archives/001583.shtml
This one is more thorough - basically, he says to be selective about submitting to directories. As I mentioned above, good quality topical directories might be useful. There are lots of other tips in the article, especially regarding how to tell if a directory is worthwhile or not.
Note that it is is over a year old - the way SE's treat directories may have changed since then.
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marblehost posted this at 11:49 — 18th July 2007.
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I don't the link from free directory have effect on pagerank,
Beacuse there only one link ,even the website have a high pagerank,it will not bring a high point in the calculation of google.
But If you submit your website to a suit directory,maybe bring some traffic for your website.
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Yasoda181 posted this at 08:45 — 30th November 2008.
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I belive that free directory submissions get less traffic than social bookmarks, Me to had tried out free directory submissions but it is hard to get targeted profit, later I had done some bookmarkings etc then got some more,
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D'Godown posted this at 20:09 — 18th July 2007.
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If they are not worth your effort, You can easily buy some submission packs.
But yes they do work for rankings and traffic.
Megan posted this at 14:36 — 19th July 2007.
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Here's another quote from another SEO expert, Rand Fishkin:
(the rest of the post is really about their new premium services)'
Basically, he's saying to go after the high quality sites and not bother with the useless crap. The really high quality stuff being "recommended links" from respected sites, high quality human edited directories, the sort of thing that humans actually use and respect. This is similar to what Aaron Wall said in the post I linke dabove. SEOmoz is offering a list of such directories to their subscribers.
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webfriend posted this at 02:20 — 9th August 2007.
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Any!! let me repeat that!
ANYlink is a good link period. And what might not be a first page website, might be tomorrow? things are changing fast.The forum links are real good you see me using them here. but after awhile they start blocking the ones from the same sites I have noticed with google.
and the more oneway is alway better.... So it posting time, that were the directories do help. I have back link from no pr, just got a domain sites. If it's a forum like this or your best friend site...posting anywhere you can will help..If you see my links here, the link did it's job!
There will never be a worthless link.
Ps. For those want to have a service do it for you, finds out how many links you will have after there done,Not just submitted!!!!
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Megan posted this at 15:08 — 13th August 2007.
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Not really true. You can get in trouble if you get yourself associated with "bad neighbourhoods", for example. Link out spammers and you could get yourself lumped in with them. Sites have also gotten in trouble for doing too much reciprocal linking and, Google's latest pet issue, buying and selling links.
There is also such a thing as totally useless links, which is what we're talking about here. If it's totally useless, then why bother wasting your time getting it? Spend your time getting good quality links that will make a difference for your rankings.
It's also relative to how established your site is, and where your other links are coming from. If you're brand new then may be any link is good, but after that there are many that get to be a waste of time.
Right, and what might be a first page site today may not even be ranking tomorrow
The key to directory links is whether this is something Google would count as an editorially given link based on merit. Is the directory fussy about what it includes? Is it considered to be hard to get in or do they take anyone? Do they link to spammy sites or "bad neighbourhoods"? Do the titles and descriptions read like they are there for humans or for search engines? The SEOmoz post I linked above has a lot more information along these lines.
The SEOmoz post I linked above talks about their new premium directory of directories which only include directories that are really good for SEO. There are others out there that claim to be SEO friendly but that can mean a variety of things. Use your head and consider the factors I listed above when trying to get directory links.
I think niche directories are usually better, except for a few general directories.
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wopt posted this at 11:38 — 13th August 2007.
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Can anyone give me a list of good free to use UK based general purpose link directories then?
I have found a monster list, but at first glance I can see I would waste a lot of time trawling through that list... Somebody should make a directory of directories lol!
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seoplus posted this at 13:29 — 14th August 2007.
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If the free directories have good PR, which will make a nice effort on your website.
But most free directories only have lower PR, which will only make little effect.
If you have time , you can make some try, they will make some sense after all.
If your time is precious, then buy some links from high PR website or paid directories.
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jon8105 posted this at 20:20 — 6th September 2007.
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yeah, I like to go to iwebtool.com and see what the PR is for the sites, and if they are high enough I will submit to them!
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MrCat posted this at 00:47 — 15th August 2007.
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Having as many link backs as possible is worth the effort in the long run. Anyways, these are free directories. I does help in building your PR
mariabear4 posted this at 07:34 — 6th September 2007.
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Actually i think free link directories do matter. Sure quality backlinks are what your after, however sometimes numbers help out quite a bit, especially if google is trying to decide whether or not to give you that extra number on your page rank. Sure it shouldnt be your only source of backlinks....but there are tons of ways to get backlinks on quality sites with hardcore page rank. ::COUGH:: Digg ::COUGH::
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sitesupport posted this at 00:15 — 7th September 2007.
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You can also use the tool to predict the future page rank of a directory at iwebtool, to see if it'll be worth submitting in the future.
jon8105 posted this at 02:57 — 7th September 2007.
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Yep, that is true! They have a lot of cool tools that can be used!
Babarali posted this at 00:52 — 21st September 2007.
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Yes it worths ,
submitting web to the different online directories is an important part of any Link promotion campaign. Whilst your traffic from many directories may be minor or irrelevant, relevant incoming links to your website will help in your overall search engine link popularity.
Other than Yahoo!, which is quite frankly beyond the reach of many smaller websites, paying for your directory submission can be a waste of money. You can get just as good a resultfrom submitting to free directories, or those that are free with a reciprocal link. If the directory is exceptionally good, the cost is low, and your directory ranking will be improved by paying a fee, do so if you wish.
sitesupport posted this at 03:34 — 7th September 2007.
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I like the free directories that don't require a linkback or any personal information. Like DMOZ, but they kinda suck now...
JennyScoth0109 posted this at 06:11 — 30th October 2007.
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Sometimes, they can help index your site, as well as the traffic you can get from the site.
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Hafsoh posted this at 19:09 — 18th January 2008.
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Search engines base a certain factor on directories in judging a website’s popularity and relevance. Depending on the quality of the directory and the number of back links your website has, search engines will be able to determine your relevance and qualify your website accordingly.
Directories were the primary source for web users to find websites on various topics. Today search engines have taken over but directories have not lost their importance yet. You cannot obviously expect too much traffic from a directory submission. But you can expect an improvement in your search engine placement.
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Megan posted this at 14:28 — 21st January 2008.
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This is not really true. Search engines look at links generally - doesn't matter if they come from a directory or not, or which directory (although DMOZ could have received some weight in google in the past).
It is also the case that a lot of directories were devalued or dropped altogether in Google last fall. Many of these links don't have much value. This also puts into question the long term value of directory links. If you know that Google already dropped a lot of directories, there's a good chance they will filter out others in the future.
If you're considering a particular directory, check to see how its listing pages rank for related keyword searches. If they're not ranking then it's probably not worth bothering with a listing.
Of course, there is a huge difference between quality directories and many of the free directories that are out there. A human edited directory that is fussy about what it accepts is probably worth getting into. See the SEOmoz posts on the topic for more info.
But that would take some work, and effort to create quality content that is worthy of the directory. Seems like people are more interested in the easy route. Quantity over quality could work to some extent but it takes a lot of time and the results are often short term.
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abuzz posted this at 17:48 — 19th January 2008.
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I think they are. Links are always good.
dye7pcor posted this at 16:59 — 20th January 2008.
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I like the free directories,now my pr=3
MrCat posted this at 01:53 — 22nd January 2008.
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Quality still comes into play. You may choose what directories to submit too - the ones with high PR and the ones with heavy traffic. Keep also in mind that traffic coming from directories tend to be targeted
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Scuba Steve posted this at 20:00 — 28th January 2008.
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there is nothing wrong with submitting to directories, it wont hurt your score or anything, it can only help even if it does nothing
goodamr posted this at 12:12 — 13th February 2008.
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submitting your site to free directories, your site will have more backlinks and as a result high page rank.
vitalblogs posted this at 22:53 — 1st March 2008.
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I used them, but as other have stated...They don't really bring any traffic to your site...I'm assuming that's what you want.
willimans01 posted this at 18:50 — 9th March 2008.
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i find directories with no or low pr are a waste of time, i paid for 1000 submissions to these and it was the biggest waste of money ive ever spent. stick to high pr quality rather than quality.
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marketraise2007 posted this at 09:25 — 13th March 2008.
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Directory submissions are an important aspect of SEO.But what direcotry owners do is to tempt people with promotional offers ,i.e paid subscription on a yearly/monthly basis,so that your website is featured in the front page and gets traffic.Later when Google updates PR and backlinks you get an extra inbound link that enables you to increase your PR.
What Google did after it conducted an Update for PR and Backlinks in the month of October was that it made it mandatory to use the Google Adsense account whether you purchase or sell a link.People purchasing a link from a directory without the use of the Adsense account will not have it counted as a backlink when Google updates it and directory owners who sold links without the adsense account would have their ISP'S banned from Google.
Now for those who are going in for free submissions.It makes no sense to do bulk submissions when you know that it would take up indefinite amount of time to get the reviewal of a moderator and then get the approval.What one should do is to opt for a category that one relates too and has the minimum amount of submissions.Say you have 10 keywords and you relate well to them ,but you prefer 2 amongst them.So even if the prefered category has a greater number of submissions pending,it would be wise to skip the category and opt for another term that you relate too.This helps,since the category with lesser number of pending reviewals will have the submission reviewed quickly compared to a category that has a greater number of submission pending.
My personal opinion is for those who are into free submission opt for social bookmarking or networking sites.These sites have maximum traffic and in that case if your content/article whatever you post is appealing and is of quality your visitor/traffic rate will improve.
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PoPsecure posted this at 08:47 — 18th March 2008.
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If the free directories have PageRank or , at least, get indexed by search engines, it will be great for you.
However, I often see web directories with PageRank at the category pages are available for sale only. But it is their rights for selling good web-traffic webpages from their directories because they have worked hard to get the great traffic to their websites. They should get the gifts in return.
The specific business directories or niche directories will be better than general web directories. However, the niche directories should pay more attention on their website maintenance too.
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Vicerus posted this at 09:08 — 20th March 2008.
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I always submit links to free directories and this is good way to reach the good results in SEO. And thos not a time wasting. At list you will have manualy checked directory list
MrCat posted this at 18:08 — 25th March 2008.
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Some important things to consider when selecting which directories to submit to (whether free or paid):
High PR - indication that Google sees some value in the directory.
Well maintained - listed sites are in the proper category
High Traffic - getting traffic could be minimal form directories, but majority are targeted
Kewords ranking high in SERP - Well optimized, shows that the directory is well-marketed and SEO'ed.
Which to avoid:
Link farms that pose as directories
Directories that require reciprocal links
Crappy ones with crappy sites listed
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savantcreative posted this at 01:34 — 26th March 2008.
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So many of them have been devalued. I like Pegasus, Linkdirectory, Turnpike, Indexit(paid but cheap)
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genotsknots posted this at 12:48 — 26th March 2008.
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Its worth it but you need to find the good ones you need lucky.
MrCat posted this at 22:46 — 30th March 2008.
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Yes. Think of it also as a source of traffic. A directory alone may not give you that much traffic - maybe just 3 to 5 visitors a week. But they sum up especially if you have inclusion in 100 quality ones... The key is proper selection - which is the harder part of it
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snowbird posted this at 03:16 — 21st April 2008.
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Submitting to free directories works, but be selective in which directories you submit to. Since everyone seems to be chasing PR these days, many of the high PR directories that have huge backlogs. IMO, it's better to be listed in a PR 0 directory then waiting to be reviewed in a PR 4 directory.
I submit my site, and client sites, to my personal directory list. The focus of the list is on new directories. The advantage, especially for low PR sites that are being submitted, is that there are few competing listings. This get's my submissions indexed much much faster.
The high PR directories are still good to list at, but spending a little money will get your review ahead of the hundreds, and even thousands, of free submissions waiting to be reviewed.
matthemattrix posted this at 10:54 — 27th April 2008.
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I think it's a good idea to post to new directories. As you say, there is less competition. But also, you may be "getting in on the ground floor" of a directory that may accumulate very high PR and/or traffic over time.
I'm happy to be corrected on this, since I'm not expert on seo, etc. But it seems likely to me that if you post to a wide variety of free, new directories a certain percentage are sure to grow into top quality directories (and start charging, too!).
If you're there from the start, you will reap those rewards in time. (Sure, submitting to the others wasn't worth it, but as with so much to do with marketing, it's ultimately a "number's game".)
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bermuda posted this at 22:59 — 2nd May 2008.
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Well, many believe that even the new free directory links can be good because anyway, they still are regarded as one way links.
Intersign Web posted this at 04:04 — 3rd May 2008.
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If they are free, what is the most it can cost you? Time? I would submit my site to any and every space on the Internet that would allow me.
Megan posted this at 14:34 — 3rd May 2008.
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Google does look at your link profile broadly, so the ideal is to have a variety of types of links from a variety of types of sites. Being in 20 low quality directories is as good as being in 100. There's no point - there are lots of better things you could be spending your time on. Why spend your time on something that doesn't matter when you could be working on things that do?
Another thing to keep in mind is that Google looks at how your link profile develops over time. So spread your submissions out over a few months so it looks more natural.
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Digitoko posted this at 07:59 — 13th May 2008.
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I also prefers directories, it also helpful in Backlinks
JohnnyD posted this at 23:22 — 9th June 2008.
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I've been posting submissions to free URL Directories and it helps out in some instances, and not in others. It's kind of fickle in my opinion.
Greensphere posted this at 19:46 — 10th June 2008.
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Hey its worth a try in my opinion i submit to some of the free directories from time to time is it effective? not sure but it is cheap even if it isn't effective.
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matthemattrix posted this at 10:26 — 28th June 2008.
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Interesting to see that there is a continuing disagreement about the benefits of submitting to directories. But I have had success with them recently.
On this subject, here's a really good searchable resource which lists directories.
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lars posted this at 22:16 — 30th June 2008.
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thanks for the links, with all the different techniques to promote a site, its quite hard to identify which ones work effectively... and what is working today may not be as good tomorrow... again thanks for all the valuable information...
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linkbuildr posted this at 07:46 — 23rd August 2008.
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I only submit to directories VERY related to my niche and I've avoided a lot of trouble that way.
domain posted this at 05:13 — 26th August 2008.
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Hello,
Directory submission is very useful part of SEM. Before submiting our site on various directories at first we check whats's the PR of Directories and we also select relebent categories of our website. It's Also good if Particular categories have good PR. Dmoz is good directory to submit websites it's free.Google give priority of those websites which is submited in Dmoz.
bobo99 posted this at 18:55 — 29th August 2008.
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There are some high quality free directories out there. If you put a back link in them it will help with your pr. But make sure you only use the high pr ones
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Mickael_law posted this at 05:35 — 1st September 2008.
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Free directory submission is good idea for promote any web site but before submission We will think about site Relevancy as for what is directory PR, whats category PR.
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Adam_waugh posted this at 06:40 — 19th September 2008.
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Hello,
Directory submission is the key to building your website one-way links and increasing your site popularity with search engines!
trelog posted this at 06:52 — 1st October 2008.
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I think that any link is a positive thing...certainly can't hurt to use the free directories submission sites.
Misa21 posted this at 07:39 — 7th October 2008.
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I don't spend to much time on directory submissions, At least 10 a day, I submit my site to pr3 and up...
hairloss1 posted this at 09:49 — 19th October 2008.
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Directory submission is always help to drive traffic on site, submission in good quality directory is always helpful
trelog posted this at 12:23 — 19th October 2008.
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I am always hearing conflicting views on the value of submitting to free sites...I tend to think that if you want to take the time to submit, then go ahead because a link is a link!
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SEOguy1 posted this at 07:56 — 22nd October 2008.
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Submitting to good quality directory may help you to give back links. But I don't think we will get good traffic from directory submission.
jk090 posted this at 14:37 — 25th November 2008.
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use dmoz
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"DIRECTORY Submission is not basically for 'HITS'. Get our sites BACK LINKS on web is MAIN purpose of directory submission.
For hits you can submit your site on classifieds, do business listing, participate on yahoo answering .......etc
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FlightCenter posted this at 20:56 — 24th May 2010.
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Free directories are definitely worth the effort. There are thousands of them, which means thousands of listings across the internet (basically Yellow Pages Online).
businessentials posted this at 01:17 — 26th May 2010.
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it just means that directory submissions should be done with attention to the traffic value, that is - you’re submitting to a directory for the direct traffic from that directory - not for the link juice that may or may not be passed on.This isn’t to say that directory submissions will have no SEO benefit - in some cases it will have some benefit at least to some degree - but if you do it with traffic in mind, and only submit to directories you believe will refer targeted traffic, then any SEO benefit is a bonus.
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