hi fellow TWFers,
for those of you in the web design business, would u mind sharing ur ups and downs with me cause i want to get into that busness too and i would like to know what it's like so i can prepare my self, and i would openly accept any advice to 







Suzanne posted this at 01:55 — 12th November 2002.
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First tip: contact your local chamber of commerce for information on how to start your own business in your region, and what you are required to do.
Second tip: learn how to present yourself professionally online and in writing (no more u, ur, or spelling errors) and be aware that your online reputation can and will be seen by some of your clients.
Third tip: learn as much as you can about standards in all aspects of the field, and find respected and dependable people to fill your weak spots.
Fourth tip: get a lawyer and an accountant, and get a contract and a plan for billing sorted out.
Fifth tip: check out the articles on running your own web development business at alistapart.com
HTH,
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nike_guy_man posted this at 03:48 — 12th November 2002.
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I agree with Suzanne's tips
The 4th tip of getting a lawyer and an accountant is invaluable! A lawyer will check over every contract, make sure you don't get screwed
And an accountant makes sure you put aside enough for taxes... which I almost forgot to do!
Taxes taxes taxes... they'll kill you
My biggest tip: Keep a high view... there is always a job out there for you, you just have to find it
The Webmistress posted this at 07:42 — 12th November 2002.
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I think once you have actually started on your own the initial downs can be the frustration of actually getting work, you may go out to see clients but they generally aren't the quickest at getting together information you need/request from them. The ups for working for yourself are obvious but you can be working all hours and it's very hard to 'get away' from work especially if you are doing it from home.
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taff posted this at 17:56 — 12th November 2002.
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ups and downs of the web design business? yes, there are.
Pro: Relatively low overhead
Pro: Easily run from home
Pro: Market is still relatively good
Con: Sales. I hate sales. Not unique to this industry, I'm sure but be prepared to spend a lot of time doing other than what you'd hoped to be doing be it sales, bookkeeping, researching, etc. If you are on your own, it is not unrealistic that half your hours spent on the business will be unbillable. Keep that in mind when setting hourly rates.
Con: We're a dime a dozen. Everyone and their cousin is in this business it seems. Sure they vary in quality, expertise, and niche but it can still be an obstacle
Con: Again, general to self-employment - erratic income, no benefits, no overtime, no sick days... etc.
Bottom line: If it is merely the design aspect of it that interests you, I'd recommend you get a job with another shop. If you really long for self-employment, just remember that, much of the time, a "web design business" is more "business" than it is "web design"
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Busy posted this at 20:01 — 12th November 2002.
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This isn't web design but is business related, a few years ago I was doing freelance photography, sounds like a glamour job and it is when the work is flowing in and you just have to set up, shoot and reap the rewards. The reason I gave it up is the paper work and other jobs involved. Plus the fact we have more photographers per capita than anywhere else in the world.
Taking the actual photos were about 5-10% of the business time, the rest was spent, finding the work, dealing with the clients (their wants and needs), setting up (plus location work, travelling), getting approvals on test shots, selling the end result, filing all the info away, tax forms, paper work, phone calls, hiring equipment, hiring people (models, stand ins) ...
I'm actually starting to do more and more web design for profit, it's still only a paid hobby and I don't go looking for work but if I can do enough might go into it full time.
My motto: expect nothing - anything above nothing is profit, gain and a bonus.
Good luck
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taff posted this at 20:44 — 12th November 2002.
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Now if only that paid the bills
It was great fun as a hobby business. I did that for about a year before taking it on full time.
Gee, I need a *insert toy here* - time to do a web site
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Renegade posted this at 04:46 — 13th November 2002.
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Thank you every on who posted, i apprieciate it very much
well no one sed that it would b easy, although i have to say, i want to get into this business, because of the love of it, i started making my first site, a ew years ago, and just fell in love with it. i like(sometimes) the problems that come into webdesign and the joy of solving it later on when i have gone for 2 weeks without sleep
my first page was really stupid, it really look "crap" and know when i look at it i find myself laughing at how lame i was (yes i still have a copy of my first site)
so, now as a get a bit mroe experienced i want to get into it a bit more and start to learn php and databases, logins, forums etc
so, b4 i really start making money off my hobby, i want to know the ups and downs of being in the business
so please keep the advice coming!
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Busy posted this at 04:59 — 13th November 2002.
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Do a few sites for people/companies for free (make sure you have website by you linked on it) and make up a portfolio, once you have done a few sites (don't do any major e-commerce sites) start charging and before you know it you could be in business.
A portfolio is proof of your work, experience and can gain work by word of mouth.
webdesign (or web site making) is fun, I, like you enjoy when they don't work and have to hunt down the fault.
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Renegade posted this at 21:02 — 14th November 2002.
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Jaiem posted this at 22:14 — 16th November 2002.
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The biggest problem with designing sites is getting some darn content from your client!!!
People think when they buy a website design you know all there is to know from the start. You'd be amazed but people don't even give you simple, obvious things their business hours, directions to get to the business, are they licensed/certified/authorized/etc to do certain kinds of work, etc etc.
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FunkyJ posted this at 18:50 — 26th November 2002.
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Content part is BIG in webdesign
If you can package your web design with content writing. You're offering a whole new different service.
Or if you could setup a 'template' questions and send it to your buyers after they committed to buy your design, that will be great too
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