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Hi Guys,

I run an art website and we have had trouble in the past with putting erotic art on the site, complaints ect, even though we had a warning that the pages contained adult content. We used an entry page before the erotic pages to warn that the pages contained adult content. Anyway, we took them off.

But now we would like to add them again but i am trying to think of a better way to make sure only ppl who wont be offended by the artworks see them. I didnt like using an entry page before for several reasons, like navigation and search engines.

I also thought of using a javascript alert box but i think that would just be annoying.

So my current idea is this:
The page will open as normal, with no interuption, but i will use css to alter the visibility of the images so that they are invisible when the page first loads.
Then have somewhere near the top of the page something along the lines of
"Warning the images on this page contain adult content. Click here to enable images."
and then they click and the images appear.

But can you think of any problems using something like this could cause. Like in search engines or browser compatibility ect. I dont think I have seen anyone else ever use something like this before...

What do you think?

Mike Hannon
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ICHOR Gallery : Fine Art Prints

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how about a wide pop-in window, put the warning there, and put a go back home and continue link. Continue just closes the pop-in window...

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I didnt want to use pop ups.... i think they're too annoying... i thought this way would be much tidier since the page will load without interupting the user from viewing it... just the images will be blank...

Mike Hannon
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Well its not a pop-up perse, it uses a pop-in page that can easily be closed and will load on the page as soon as the main page opens, its not a seperate browser window... Well you have a good idea there by not loading the image, and putting a warning on top... Others load a long page on top of the gallery with the warnings including not scrolling down if you found such images objectionable...

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hmm.. i see what you mean about the pop IN windows... but i'm still leaning towards the image visibility thingy (pardon technical language)... i still need to make it work but it should. my main worry is why i havent seen it used anywhere....

Mike Hannon
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ICHOR Gallery : Fine Art Prints

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coz they use the standard ways of entry pages. Im sure there are site that use this image load principle... Usually they put the categories in the frontpage where for example you have a category named "erotic art" after that are bold texts saying do not enter here unless you are 18 years or older etc etc... thats what I commonly see on other art sites...

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As long as you have proper warning set up, you should just ignore the complains. :x
Their fault for clicking, right?

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Well that does rely upon the users browser being setup in a certain way. Wouldn't it be easier to include the warning on the page that links to the gallery, or just warn people at the start that there are images in there that might offend some people.

And right, pop-ins, Javascript prompts etc are very annoying. Personally I'd put a subtle but unmissable warning somewhere - just plain text, vanilla HTML so no-one has a technical excuse for missing it - like next to the link to the gallery page.

For a simple problem like this you don't want to try getting clever, it always trips you up! Remember the KISS rule: Keep It Simple, Stupid. Laughing out loud

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JeevesBond wrote: Well that does rely upon the users browser being setup in a certain way. Wouldn't it be easier to include the warning on the page that links to the gallery, or just warn people at the start that there are images in there that might offend some people.

And right, pop-ins, Javascript prompts etc are very annoying. Personally I'd put a subtle but unmissable warning somewhere - just plain text, vanilla HTML so no-one has a technical excuse for missing it - like next to the link to the gallery page.

For a simple problem like this you don't want to try getting clever, it always trips you up! Remember the KISS rule: Keep It Simple, Stupid. Laughing out loud

Never heard of the KISS rule; I find that quite funny!!! Laughing out loud

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JeevesBond wrote: For a simple problem like this you don't want to try getting clever, it always trips you up! Remember the KISS rule: Keep It Simple, Stupid. Laughing out loud

I completely agree... the simpler the better.

I've been working on a page to test if my idea would work and ive tried it in Opera Netscape and IE6. Looks like it is working, but could you guys check to see if it works on your computers?

Test Page

Basically the page will first load without the thumbnail images but you see the "Active/Disable" links? clicking those will switch the style sheets so that the images become active.

Still needs editing so that it warns of adult content but it looks practical.

I didnt want to have to put a warning on every link going to the erotic pages.

Mike Hannon
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ICHOR Gallery : Fine Art Prints

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A lot of the alchohol companies make you put in your date of birth before entering the main website. I know it's easy to get round but at least this is a sign of responsibility.

I found this Javascript (do a find on date of birth) which might give you a clue on how to do it:

https://www.dllr.state.md.us/renewal/JS/JavaScript.inc

Cheers,

-Rob

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Good Job, but some may raise a compatibility question regarding the use of javascript on pages, I can see that you use javascript controls to chang stylesheets... Your positioning of the link and warning is pretty appropriate...

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As long as there is a warning, your a/ok

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That looks good to me! (Opera 8.51/Win2K)

Even if the JS doesn't work I guess you've still got a warning. Some of those are pretty suggestive! Smiling

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Cheers Guys!

If javascript is disabled the images just wont appear which I think is the safest option.

Do many people not run javascript?

Anyway, fingers crossed it works out and thanks again for your input... ^_^

Mike Hannon
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OK GUYS!!!

The erotic art is now online so knock your selves out....

http://www.anthonychristian.co.uk/erotic.html

the main issue i think i will have is that ppl might not notice that they have to enable the images... any suggestions on how to make it more obvious without being garish?

any feed back would be nice...

Mike Hannon
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ICHOR Gallery : Fine Art Prints

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Instead of 'images disabled' image holder put reference to your warning.

I read your warning (quickly) then saw the images disabled, then went back to it, it works

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Very clever bit of code there! Well done.