DaffyDuck — Sat, 16 Oct 2004 09:54:09 +0000

Thanks for all the input, the one thing I love about IBP is the facility to check on my positions at least once a month, I can do it everyday but that would be spamming. I can search 380 search engines on my keywords and know precisely where I am. I also do some very minor ppc on the USA Engines, Mamma, 7 search, I paid Ask $40 two years ago and I am still number one on Ask Jeeves (UK) under my main keyword'Right to Buy'. News reports are definetly the 'in' thing. By using Google News Reports you can get newspaper reports on whatever subject matter you are into, then you get the opportunity to feed your input to that newspaper, hopefully with your http:// - these reports arrive daily and so far One major UK newspaper (News of the World) have recommended us. Free publicity is worth a heck of a lot!

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AyntRyte — Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:17:29 +0000

It could be a wash either way. Google says that by the time they get around to spidering a submitted URL, Googlebot may have spidered the site anyway. But they also say that they won't penalize you making that submission (or for multiple submissions.) So, there's no harm in taking 5 seconds to fill out the submission.

brady.k — Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:28:37 +0000

I disagree...you don't need to pay for a SEO, but it would be a smart idea to submit for crawling for the main engines: Google, Yahoo, MSN, and...maybe...a smaller one like SearchBot or Altavista.

That way, you know they will get to you faster than through the links that you have on other pages. The links are good for PR, and word of mouth, but a general search is sometimes more effective.

eitemiller — Fri, 15 Oct 2004 15:00:35 +0000

I totally like you game plan. If you ask me, submission to search engines (not directories) is a waste of time - PROVIDING that you are getting backlinks. If you get backlinks, you will be crawled. So what's the point of submitting to search engines? None. Waste of valuable time. Spend more time getting the quality backlinks that you described, submit your site into every dang directory you can find (providing the directory has spiderable links, etc) and run like the wind. You're right, not everyone can have a #1 page, but there is a lot of leftover traffic that can be caught with some few simple steps.

Good call about staying away from the link farms - waste of time. Also, if you swap links with other webmasters, I recommend you not calling that page "links.html" or anything similar to that. Also, swap with good quality websites, dont just swap a link for a link - your credibility is on the line, you know?

News articles have become one of my latest tools - I also am having good results with them.