Abhishek Reddy — Sat, 13 Sep 2003 23:23:25 +0000

Have you considered implementing the script Renegade linked? Frames are far more hassle than they are worth (user and coder).

Enselic — Sat, 13 Sep 2003 20:02:39 +0000

I surly have FAR above basic HTML knowledge. I lack on the Javascript though...

necrotic — Sat, 13 Sep 2003 19:25:16 +0000

Dreamweaver makes the code bulky and adds un-needed code. Sometimes it adds invalid code, too. Like the tags, should be used instead.

I recommend learning HTML. Every webmaster should have AT LEAST basic HTML knowledge.

Enselic — Sat, 13 Sep 2003 18:13:51 +0000

I don't think Dreamweaver adds shitloads of code... If you are refering to the code that you can see.

And I don't know HTML or Javascript so without DW i'm pretty sold...

m3rajk — Sat, 13 Sep 2003 18:08:46 +0000

Quote: Originally posted by Enselic
IFRAMES or OBJECT, are they not even considerable?

They seem pretty hidden in Dreamweaver MX...

don't use dreamweaver. it adds a shitload of crap to your code.

http://www.xemacs.org
http://www.gnu.org (search for emacs)

if you use winblows, don't worry, they have ports fot it. both of those are FAR superior and FREE.

no added code.

only issue: you better know the language because it wont write any of it for you

The Alien — Sat, 13 Sep 2003 17:51:37 +0000

I write my navbars/menus with javascript and put it in an external sheet and just include it in all my pages. One place to make changes to any number of pages.

brady.k — Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:03:00 +0000

you can use a div layer, just make it static-ly positioned.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=div+layer

Enselic — Sat, 13 Sep 2003 14:26:44 +0000

Ok.

Thanks for your comments, they help.
I know how irritating noobish people can be .

I'll use iframes for now...

Abhishek Reddy — Sat, 13 Sep 2003 13:49:32 +0000

Quote: Originally posted by Suzanne
Object I'm not sure about, it's usually used for plugins? Though I think it's making a comeback for images for XHTML 2.

I haven't read much on it, but I think they're going to replace even ... not sure, though. But definitely a comeback.

Quote: Originally posted by Enselic
Is it practicly _anyone_ who uses browsers _not_ compatible with iframes?

I know a couple of lynx users. Frames of any kind aren't the most usable -- I personally avoid and dislike them for this reason. But, practically, you're right. The wider audience does support frames to some degree.

Enselic — Sat, 13 Sep 2003 13:18:53 +0000

Is it practicly _anyone_ who uses browsers _not_ compatible with iframes?