Suzanne — Mon, 04 Aug 2003 18:09:54 +0000

Um... okay? lol... I was just reacting to red_ghost's recommendation, which is good -- that people should be able to view what they are doing as they go to learn -- with better software for the job.

I think that DW is becoming more of a suite of tools than a WSYIWYG editor. I don't use it myself, but I know a number of very competent and skilled colleagues who swear by it.

ShaneS — Mon, 04 Aug 2003 18:03:37 +0000

FrontPage is definitely pure crap, it was decent when they had FrontPage 98 and the optional Front Page express you could install.

Todays FP is the worst peice of software out there. Dreamweaver MX is decent, but I still frown on the WYSIWYG approach because when something breaks you can't fix it.

I was just giving an example though Suzanne

Suzanne — Mon, 04 Aug 2003 16:48:10 +0000

Don't start them on FrontPage, my god. Dreamweaver is miles better. I'd prefer GoLive to FrontPage.

BBEdit/Homesite are far better, use the browsers for previewing.

ShaneS — Mon, 04 Aug 2003 14:06:28 +0000

necrotic is right. I use to work with my local high school when PHP ware just being conceived and back then the best thing out was front page. There never needed a webserver, all the night time adult students who wanted basic webpage create knowledge where giving logins on NT and then they would just save the files and access them locally.

It really just depends on the depth you need to go. For just HTML you dont need the server because it is all browser based code, nothing server based.

red_ghost — Mon, 04 Aug 2003 14:05:41 +0000

why do you need an apache sever? unless you're planning to teach them php too. There's an alternative root, you could always get frontpage and have your students do html on that, since it dose convert the code into a preview page so you know what you're codeing.

necrotic — Mon, 04 Aug 2003 00:10:31 +0000

If you're just doing basic HTML you don't even need apache. Just run it from the client (Instead of http://localhost/... use file:///C:/path/to/file.html). If you were doing PHP or another Server-Side scripting program you'd need apache.

antoshka — Fri, 01 Aug 2003 21:25:02 +0000

you could install apache, that's right. if you need any help with that - e-mail me.

arukhlin@routhost.com

Renegade — Wed, 30 Jul 2003 05:50:29 +0000

Or maybe a network drive for students to upload to?

davidzhang — Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:45:17 +0000

hmm i was thinking more of just install apache on an old 200Mhz computer and slap a 10 gb hard drive on there or something. that way users can upload and view their sites at LAN speeds (since it's only student's sites). also that way, i am fairly confident that quotas are not necessary since 10 gb is a lot of a class of 30 (about 330 MB/student).

the reseller account is also a good idea, the club might be able to get some money to spend on other stuff to upgrade our servers.

well anyways, thanks for your feedback.

Busy — Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:32:20 +0000

why not get yourself a reseller account, put 5-10mb aside for your students but note in class it's only temporary and will be removed in two months.
Then students who which to get there own sites can either go to a free host (geo's etc) or buy a bit of your hosting.